LTCF revoked because of speeding

[dragonofpa]

Ok here is the deal.

Last month a friend of mine was driving home alone from a party at about 2:00AM. Since it was the middle of the night and the roads where totally clear he was doing about 85 MPH in a 55 MPH highway zone. He gets pulled over and the officer asks him about weapons. He tells the officer about his LTCF and yes he has his Glock 17 on him. Officer asks him to step out of the car so he can disarm him. My friend complies and the officer takes his Glock 17 and hands my friend the magazine back. Officer tells him he needs to see license and registration as well as LTCF. My friend produces the cards/documents. Office then tells him to wait in the car and the officer goes back to his car.

5 minutes go by and my friend is issued a citation for "Wreckless driving." Officer says he is doing him a favor because technically 25 MPH over the speed limit is an automatic arrestable offense which can carry enough points that he'd lose his license for at least a year. Officer hands him back the glock 17 and my friend is on his way.

Flash forward to this past Monday and he gets a letter from the sherriff's department in the mail. LTCF revoked, reason given was "Illegal behavior while in possession of a firearm."

This doesn't sound right to me, has anyone ever heard of this before?

[MarcS]

Fight it.

I've never heared of it happening before, but i guess the sheriff could argue that a reckless driving cite means "An individual whose character and reputation is such that the individual would be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety."

[itstock]

That sounds pretty bogus to me. That opens the door to, if you get a ticket for going 5mph over the limit, a LTCF can be revoked.

I see the overall assessment as MarcS put it though. We should probably be doing the speed limit anyway .

[Michele]

There was an agenda here. Or the driver is not telling the whole complete story. There must have been a specific word said to piss the LEO off.
Had the driver not been carrying, i'll bet dollars to donuts that he would of received only a speeding ticket.
I got a speeder 16 miles over, told the LEO I was carrying. A complete non issue. Got the speeding ticket, which I am going to fight on Monday.
If everyone lost their LTCF because of a driving infraction, nobody in the state would have a LTCF.
Theres more to this story. Sometimes men have a tendency to be cocky. Some men might not realize it and thats why they get into trouble. I've said it before here, men interact differently with each other. There is a profiling and a posturing.
There is also something I realized here on this forum and that is to treat everyone with the utmost respect when carrying a firearm. That includes LEOs. Yes there are some that abuse their badge but why would anyone want to provoke that? I know I wouldn't. I wouldn't want the hassle or the expense. What would I win? Sometimes being a winner means keeping your yap shut.
I hope everything works out for your friend.
Speeding is a no-no in PA. Just don't do it!

[MarcS]

You know, if you don't tell the cop that you have a gun on you, he's not likely to know and therefore not likely to report you to the sheriff.

[HiredGoon]

Originally Posted by dragonofpa

.... He gets pulled over and the officer asks him about weapons....

Just curious. Was this a PA State Policeman or a local cop?

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by MarcS

You know, if you don't tell the cop that you have a gun on you, he's not likely to know and therefore not likely to report you to the sheriff.

My first thought as well.
But besides that, if the info is correct we seem to have an epidemic of POS sheriff syndrome on our hands lately ! :O

[Michele]

Originally Posted by MarcS

You know, if you don't tell the cop that you have a gun on you, he's not likely to know and therefore not likely to report you to the sheriff.

Agreed.
The op said the LEO asked the driver about weapons.
Something played out that is not in the op's story. Somethings missing.

[MarcS]

Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot

if the info is correct we seem to have an epidemic of POS sheriff syndrome on our hands lately ! :O

The solution is clear. Run our own candidates and get them elected. You realize you need absolutely nothing other than a pulse and 51% of the vote to be sheriff. It's a pretty powerful position too.

[MarcS]

Originally Posted by Michele

The op said the LEO asked the driver about weapons.

"Sir, i have nothing illegal in my car"