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Default Re: PSU students/staff: Empty Holster Protest

Did you see anyone else doing this. Was wondering what kind of a response they are getting for this.

Good job, and keep it up.
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Default Re: PSU students/staff: Empty Holster Protest

no I didn't but I was also only in East Area Locker rooms from 1800-2200
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I am very disappointed with the Daily Collegian's coverage of the protest.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive...us_gun_ba.aspx

If anyone recalls otherwise, please correct me, but I believe the drunken student dancing around with a gun was not legally licensed to carry a concealed weapon, and was actually in illegal possession the firearm.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive...07dnews-05.asp

I'm not sure whether to be angry at the liberal bias of the article or the team of student writers that can turn a relevant positive example into a negative one. This student is not the reason that others should not be allowed to carry a concealed weapon, rather he is the reason that we should be able to. I would like to see how many incidents involving legally licensed individuals there are...
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I don't think the protest article in the PSU paper was all that bad according to contemporary media standards.


More info on Mr. Houston (PSU student mentioned above):
http://www.pafoa.org/forum/news-123/...t-reports.html


According to that thread, he's not really the guy you want to crucify as he really didn't do anything terribly wrong as related to guns and drinking.
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I forgot to mention above, I encourage everyone to storm the editor's email box with letters concerning the lacking details of the article. The article has done its part to put the situation out there, now it is our job to support the cause with sound, relevant facts about concealed carry.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/MailLet...us%20gun%20ban

Don't let one Collegian reporter lump us in with a drunken idiot at a concert. It is our duty to point out that carrying a gun is associated with guys like this because they are doing so illegally and carelessly. Most don't even realize that they've probably interacted with many individuals legally carrying, or at least been in a common space with carrying individuals. That is the point. If you are carrying properly, nobody will know it. Because its not brought to the attention of the anti-gunner, they simpley don't know. Their entire basis to compare us to are the petty thugs and lowlifes, the very same one that we wish to protect ourselves and loved ones from.

Write a letter to the editor, tell them that you take your right to carry a handgun seriously. It may not be hard to obtain a permit in PA, but we should stand up to say that we practice to remain proficient, we are responsible by not mixing guns and alcohol, and we do not brandish our weapons indiscriminately (we strive for the opposite). Lets take the high road and stay civil, cite the facts (the Students for Concealed Carry on Campus website is a good place to start), and point out that we understand the power of our weapons, for both good and evil. We carry to protect ourselves from the evil, not to battle it.
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NineseveN, thanks for the info. I didn't take the time to do my own research (feeling a little sheepish...). Well, I should know better than to go by anything that the news wants to tell me. Whether he was drunk or not, legal or illegal, I have no clue.

I stand by my feeling that we should point out that we're legally exercising a right. If we let others speak for our cause, who knows what they'll say. An article with fuzzy details written by an assigned reporter wont say as much as someone stating they have carried for 15 years and nobody has every been hurt, threatened, or even noticed that a gun was present.

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NineseveN, thanks for the info. I didn't do the time to do my own research (feeling a little sheepish...). Well, I should know better than to go by anything that the news wants to tell me. Whether he was drunk or not, legal or illegal, I have no clue.

I stand by my feeling that we should point out that we're legally exercising a right. If we lets others speak for our cause, who knows what they'll say. An article with fuzzy details written by an assigned reporter wont say as much as someone stating they have carried for 15 years and nobody has every been hurt, threatened, or even noticed that a gun was present.
On that we can certainly agree. Good luck!
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The story on the website is longer than the story in the paper--the paper cut it off after the quote about the drunk guy. And yes, please please please send letters to the editor. Lots of them.
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Default Re: PSU students/staff: Empty Holster Protest

I can say that even among the "outdoorsy" guys up in the Forestry building....I didn't change alot of minds. They all asked why I felt the need to carry and if I carry to class now.

That being said there is an archery class on campus, I know since two of the guys take it and can be see with their bows (cased) on campus....so isn't that breaking the rules? I mean maybe I'm confused on which laws the University Police are deciding to enforce today
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You wanna know what else is ironic? There is a rifle range in the basement of the white building... Just a little food for thought.
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