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In my quest to get started in reloading I'm looking at tumblers and trimmers. The reviews on pretty much everything are all over the place some people giving one star while other give five. Which ones are you guys using and liking? Remember I'm just beginning and on a budget too!
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I use a smart reloader tumbler from midsouth for 29 bucks. SR787 model. I use the heck out of that thing. Its a good ass machine. As far as case trimming, i dont have an automatic machine. I just use a lee peice with a drill. Dont buy expensive walnut or corn cob media from reloading stores. Buy it for a 3rd of the price and petsmart
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I have the RCBS trim pro and I like it. It comes with the most commonly used shell retaining plates and pilots. Some guys have tried the Lyman with the universal chuck and the chuck wore out and broke on them. I don't have any first hand experiance with the lyman though.

I had a used forster for a little but the chuck system (collet type), I didn't like. It was a little subjective in how you seated the brass into the collet leading to slightly different trim lenths. The RCBS uses a plate to draw up the shell to a machined surface that doesn't float or move anywhere, which I think makes things a little more uniform.

For doing high volume trimming, I am told the "GTC trimmer" is the bees knees.

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I think it is Max384 that had the problems with the Lyman trimmer chucks.

I've had one for 30+ years with no problems. I got a second one a couple of years ago and it seems to be holding up so far. If I'm doing a bunch of cases, I use mine with the power adapter and a cordless drill instead of the crank handle.

I can't say much about a tumbler as mine is an old model from Midway that uses rubber straps to hold a 'tupperware container' to the vibrating base.

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I'd really like an electric trimmer but can't justify the expense as a newbie to reloading.
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I have experience with one Lyman and you're right. Takes awhile but starts by not gripping smaller cases. Replaced the head cutter early winter, and it may be my imagination, but it didn't seem to be the same quality of the ones I had from a decade ago. Seems to be grumbling over the net that Lymans quality control isn't what it used to be, particularly with casting equiptment.
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As for trimmers I second the RCBS Pro Trimmer. Get the manual one and the take the handle off and chuck up a 1/2" cordless drill where the handle was. Instant power trimmer. As for a tumbler I suggest the Thumbles Tumble Model B. 3000 RPM variety. I used to use a RCBS vibratory with walnut from Pets Smart until I went to a wet stainless media. Never clean a primer pocket again with the wet stainless method. If your even the slightest bit anal about clean and shiny the stainless is the way to go.
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FWIW:
I use the L.E. Wilson trimmer and caseholders.

I purchased my trimmer and caseholders on ebay for much less than retail and am extremely pleased.

I bought the power adapter on sale at MidwayUSA and use a small lathe to power it. Works like a champ and I can go fast or as slow and carefully as I want.

Even by hand, this setup is accurate and reasonably fast.

This is by no means the only good trimmer. If you have any friends who reload, see if they will let you use their gear. After you trim a few hundred cases, you will know if the trimmer is ok for you. Depending on your hand size and shape, what works for me may not work for you. However, I like the L. E. Wilson products in general. They are well made and have stood the test of time.

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I have been using a Lyman Turbo 1200 for several years, no problems or issues with it. I buy cheap ground walnut "lizard bedding" from walmart for media. I add a cap of Flitz and NuFinish, a capful of mineral spirits every other batch. A used dryer sheet cut up in 1/4's removes a ton of crap from the media and seems to help.

I have seen no difference using my "homemade" media to the expensive store bought tumbling media, but I am saving quite a bit of money on it.

As for trimming, when I first started out, I didn't have the cash for an expensive trimmer set up. I opted for the cheapo Lee trimmer and pilots. Chucked up in a cordless drill, I can sit a desk or table, trim, chamfer and debur a case, change over is quick. It is a tedious process but it has been working out OK for me. I have been looking into a better "more professional" set up, but what I am doing works and is about as fast as any other trimming method.
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I have the Cabela's case tumbler. It's cheap, only $50, and works great. I've had it for a couple years now and I don't have one negative thing to say about it. I use the Redding 2400 case trimmer with micrometer. It's on the expensive side, but the quality is top notch and the trim is very precise. The one downside (other than being hand cranked) is the push button chuck they use. It's a bit complicated and awkward to use at first. Once you get used to using it, it is quick and works fine. However, they could have used a less complicated design IMO.

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I think it is Max384 that had the problems with the Lyman trimmer chucks.

I've had one for 30+ years with no problems. I got a second one a couple of years ago and it seems to be holding up so far. If I'm doing a bunch of cases, I use mine with the power adapter and a cordless drill instead of the crank handle.

I can't say much about a tumbler as mine is an old model from Midway that uses rubber straps to hold a 'tupperware container' to the vibrating base.

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You are correct sir!

When it worked, it worked very well. I like the mechanism Lyman uses in the universal chuck, and I had the power adapter, so I could really crank out a lot of cases very quickly. However, the chuck arms (or whatever they're called - the pieces that grab the brass) kept wearing out at an annoyingly fast rate. I finally got fed up with it and switched to Redding. It's hand cranked and slower, but the quality is worth the downgrade in speed IMO.
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