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Default Re: First bad Gunbroker experience

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Originally Posted by he11zna View Post
Why should the seller leave feedback once the buyer pays?
Seriously?
What more does the buyer have to prove than pay in a timely fashion.

Bottom line is once the buyer PAYS. His end of the deal is finished. Period.
Seller should do the right thing and leave feedback that moment.

Would you, as the seller ship the item without receiving payment?
No, I didn't think so.

You say the seller is at the mercy of an irrational buyer to maybe, possibly leave a negative feedback. Well the buyer is at the mercy of the seller to maybe, possibly get a product which was paid for!

Too many times have I had lousy sellers hold the feedback over my head because it was there.

I'm glad eBay changed their policy. Except with the increased listing fees and all...
The buyer does a lot more than just pay. Buyers sometimes try to extort additional items or a rebate on price, which knocks them down from a good buyer to a really bad buyer.

I've had 2 bad encounters with crazed sellers on Gunbroker. The details don't matter, except that there were huge red flags about each that only became available once I won the auction and had access to their info. In each case, they were booted off Gunbroker for provable rules violations. They probably consider me a bad buyer, but all I asked for was compliance with Gunbroker rules to which I was entitled before I was obliged to send payment.

Sellers are at risk until the buyer leaves good feednback. Buyers are at risk until they receive the goods. So buyers should leave feedback first, when the goods are received and examined. Sellers don't demand concessions once money is received, but buyers sometimes claim that goods are defective.

In practice, there's almost no real legal recourse if you send money and get nothing back. You can leave negative feedback, you can have their membership revoked, you can try to get the police interested if the amount is high enough, but you can't force them to return money without an interstate lawsuit, so stealing up to $5K from anyone at least 500 miles away is pretty safe.
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