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Originally Posted by archangel689
I'll be finding a shop that doesn't do this baloney to transfer my future weapons
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Good luck with that. We are having almost the same exact discussion in the AK receiver thread I started. One FFL has chimed in over there (Seneca Arms) and I have talked to two FFLs I am friends with and the story is the same over and over.
This explanation is going to be a bit long but I trust well worth reading. It is EXACTLY what I was told from two different FFLs, they do not know each other nor did they know I was talking to both of them.
What PSP has done here has been to FORCE FFLs to do something that is in fact illegal, making them fill out paperwork on receivers that are not pistols. Now why are these dealers 'bowing down' to the will of PSP? It's simple, PSP has the ability to shut their business down for the smallest irregularity. Paperwork a day late? Shut off their PICS id, PICS check late? same thing, they can go over your paperwork with a fine tooth comb and if anything seems out of place they shut your PICS down. Paperwork and payment perfect? They can (and will) send in a stooge and try and trap you on some obscure law and (again) shut you down.
Dealer #1 (neither want me to use their name) sold an AR receiver using only the normal form a while back. Within days of him sending it in it was rejected and he was told he MUST send a certified letter to the person that bought it and he MUST get the pistol paperwork to them in 15 days or his PIC id would be shut down.
Dealer #2 was specifically told when he called to ask about it either he did the pistol paperwork or he was in danger of losing his PICS id. He asked the question many here have asked "If this receiver is sold as a pistol and the person builds a rifle and then sells it FTF within the state are they breaking the law?" PICS supervisor told him they have no answer to that question and that he was not the first one to ask it.
So it's NOT the dealers! What we have he is PSP firearms department overstepping their bounds again BUT (and here's the interesting part) they learned their lesson after the Supreme court bitch slapped them for "keeping a registry" (for anyone that knows after they lost that they then FORCED dealers to keep their records for an ungodly length of time ... hence PSP was not in violation of the law, the FORCED the dealers to break the law for them)
Now they are doing the same thing again, they are FORCING dealers to break the law by 'registering' these receivers ..... but again PSP is not breaking the law, the dealers are and if the dealers don't do it PSP starts fucking with them and more than likely they will find some stupid obscure thing to shut the poor guy down. Take away a dealers PICS id and you put them out of business instantly!
So what's the answer? I mentioned to dealer #1 that what I thought had to happen was a group of dealers had to sue PSP for forcing them to break the law, bringing the whole thing in front of the court for a ruling. He laughed and said "Yeah right" when I asked why he told me there's no way in hell dealers are going to risk have PSP firearms "up their ass and watching for any irregularity" and the chance of them losing their PICS as "retribution".
So there you have it .... we have a state agency that has the dealers by the balls and they know it. They know if THEY break the law their asses will be in front of the Supreme Court in the blink of an eye so they threaten and badger the dealers to break the law. The dealers either do it or they get a pissed off agency, an agency that has the power to put them out of business, watching for every t to be crossed, every i to be dotted ... OR ELSE.
So before ANY of you begin calling dealers assholes you had better think twice, pay attention and realize they have no choice in the matter. Think about what YOU would do if your livelihood was at the mercy of an agency that really has NO oversight!
If this is to be fought in a court battle, or in Harrisburg it is going to have to be gun owners that get it stopped.