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Originally Posted by Mocha Java
First post here.
To O.P.:
Just curious, but why didn't you ask the policeman if you were free to go when he got past the "Hello sir, how are you today?"
I am interested in starting to open carry, but won't do it if it means I have to be anything but pissed off if I am illegally stopped.
ps I see that there is another H.D. thread here but it involves a manager, not the police.
http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...-oc-today.html |
There are no rules about how you have to act during an OC encounter. You can be pissed off if you want to. You can go with the "Am I being detained?" if you want to. You can refuse to show ID, or even not carry Id, or an LTCF if you choose to. In some circumstances I might do those things.
But I'm a pretty easy going guy, and the vibe I was getting was not JBT. I could have paid dearly for being wrong about that, but I rolled the dice anyway. Sometimes I think about the things I do at work to get things done and how they would look to people not in a medical field. I just 'felt' that officer 1 was going to be cool, but was also going to do what he thought he needed to do. What he had been taught to do. There is a saying: "You will not rise to the occassion. You will default to the level of your training." That's what happens. They are taught to disarm people for safety. They are taught to follow certain proceedures. Until that training changes their proceedures won't change. Now they have received some additional training by being on the radio for half an hour and learning through their own dispatcher, from their own superiors that no laws were being broken. They also learned that OCers can be nice guys just going about their life.
Before we shook hands both Officer 1, and 2 expressed that they liked non LEOs carrying, and were glad I was armed in case something happened. They just had to respond to a citizen request to investigate something. I understand that. If I called the cops for something I would want them to investigate it.
ETA: I don't think the cops would have been involved at all if one had not been in the store. They have never said anything to me the other times I have been there.