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With the rifle....as far as I can, usually 100+. I don't use a target, I shoot at a spot on the backstop so I can see the splash. I do the same with my .22 pistol. For SD practice 25yds is my max, way closer for the pocket gun, about 6 or 7 feet. For anything but the pocketgun if I can hit it at 25yds I'm going to hit it at 3 so I tend to stay at 25.