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Originally Posted by headcase
I am going to try to keep this brief and focused..
I am so hopping mad after reading both Rich's reply, and Dave's reply to that. When I wrote that those present that night had their rights violated, in front of their families, it may have been glossed over, but the scarring Rich's son is suffering from as a result, is just as important a reason to make a highly visible example of these officers as the actual rights violations. It incenses me, not only the thought of Rich's poor son, but that it could just as easily be mine. My wife, my son, and myself, would have been there except for a rush at her job. What about the other children there? What about children who witness other officer abuses of their parents or loved ones? You may call me a psycho, but I would rather see a police officer killed, in the line of duty, and be able to explain to my son that he gave his life in a noble cause, than to see one walk away safely, after violating someone's rights in front of their kids.
Dave said he put me on his ignore list, so I won't go off on his post, but it disgusted me.
Rich, I....can't articulate my sorrow and outrage that your family has to deal with this, but I am sure you know how I feel.
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Wait a minute.
I don't understand how some of you find it surprising that there may be consequences to "activism".
I'm not suggesting that the Dickson 12 were looking for a confrontation that evening but let's be honest, we all knew very well prior to that incident it's a given that LE who don't know OC is legal may hassle OC'ers. Thus being "out there" openly carrying brings with it a degree of vulnerability in that regard.
It's fine to be outraged at the behavior of the Dickson P.D. but based on this example, bear in mind that the next time any of you folks OC there could be a repeat of this incident. And if you're family is present they may be witness to and / or exposed to some traumatic events. IOW, someone
could actually get arrested or if it escalates, it wouldn't surprise me if LE applied physical force to effect an arrest.
The point is, if you're going to be an activist, it goes with the turf. It's not fair and it isn't right, but it's part of the price we pay for social change. I do support your efforts but changing the social landscape with regard to openly carried firearms is a big part of what some of you OC advocates are all about. Don't be surprised if some of you occasionally get a "bloody nose".