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Default Re: AK Open / Conceal Carry Question

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I went to the trouble to list a bunch of rights that are established/granted/specified by the Constitution and the Amendments, but that seems to have gone over your head.
Nothing went over my head.

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I just disagree with your points because you're wrong.
No, I am not; not in this case.

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We had slavery for thousands of years before the 13th Amendment abolished it here[...]
The abolition of slavery in the 13th Amendment does not declare or express or describe a *right*. Not everything in the Constitution is discussing a *right*. Did you think prohibition was about a right? The 13th Amendment simply states a law - one that outlaws slavery - not a *right*.


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As for your hugely-overbroad description of "bigots", you have to be joking, right? Anyone cutting senior citizens a break on bus fares is a bigot? Letting handicapped people use automatic doors or get on the plane first is bigotry? Keeping women out of hand-to-hand combat is bigotry? Not letting 10-year olds vote based on their age is bigotry? Give me a break. If you think that "bigotry" is failing to give identical treatment to people with different needs, then you need a new dictionary.
There is nothing wrong with my dictionary.

Apart from the 10 year old comment above (we are discussing adults here), yes - I do think it would be discrimination and bigotry *if* those things were set in law by the government.

I don't have a problem with completely private companies being biased for whatever reason they choose. And, so long as no one else has a problem with it, I'm fine with it. There is no law against private citizens treating other private citizens differently - apart from "equal employment opportunity" - that I am aware of.

But, as far as the government, and the law, goes, yes - I do think treating *adult* people as separate classes of citizen based only on gender, age, physical attributes, physical appearance, ethnicity or religious affiliation is wrong, wrong, *wrong*.

If you do not, well, then you obviously have no problem seeing the American people as being separated into different classes of citizenship based only on those criteria.

I can only wonder if you think Hispanic people should get different treatment by the law than the rest of us? Or maybe, if you feel this way (as you seem to), you think that people with green eyes should be afforded a separate set of rights than the rest of us?

Yes, I think if you treat or regard a human differently *only because* they have (or do not have) a physical attribute, physical ability, a particular gender, or a particular ethnicity or religious affiliation, then, according to me, you are a bigot.
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Last edited by Bruce; July 11th, 2008 at 07:29 AM. Reason: misplaced brackets
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