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Old July 10th, 2008
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Default Re: Pa. Patriot ARRESTED at the OC dinner @ The Old Country Buffet in Dickson City 5/

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Originally Posted by ThomasJ View Post
Innocent until proven guilty only exists for the government since only the government has the power to take away someone's life, liberty, and property. I am not bound by "innocent until proven guilty," and neither is anyone else. The moment OJ killed his wife, he was a murderer; the moment Michael Jackson molested a child, he was a molester, regardless of what verdict a jury reached and regardless of any outcome of a trial or plea, and I will call them such. These cops are guilty.
Civil Trial =/= Criminal Trial.

I'm not arguing with the sentiment, but even where the Federal Judge issues an Order against the cops in this case (that is, in the Plaintiff's favor), and the cops lose all appeals (or the appeals aren't given cert), it's still a Civil trial.

Or, to use the OJ trials - the Civil Trial found him legally responsible to pay the damages awarded - but it did not legally undo the finding of not guilty in the Criminal trial.

(Don't take this as arguing in DC's favor - I'm trying to keep the terminologies straight.)
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