[Tomcat088]

[quote=Coyote;111513]Alot of people cant handle the .357 sig because of the recoil so they talk bad about it.....Its lighter than the .45 can even dream of being. It does kick a lot for the inexperienced shooter... The ability to shoot through the wind shield and kill the occupant if neccessary is also a relief...The thought of one bullet knocking a full grown man on his ass is also another satisfying thought...QUOTE]

I just wanted to make a few comments about what was said here. First off, recoil is a subjective thing from one shooter to another, and many people are more sensitive than others. Impulse is also another factor to consider besides just the straight force of recoil because one must consider the distance and speed at which this recoil is delivered. Because the pistol that you shoot the .357 sig in is lighter, that by itself means that the gun is going to feel like it recoils harder because there is less weight to that the recoil of the round has to push. Some shooters will have a problem with this, others will not.

Now what I did want to talk about is some things that you implied in your post which are quite inaccurate. I have yet to see a 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP that will not shoot through a windshield of a car. Someone that has done some experimenting with shooting through windshields (or read about it) knows that glass will always deflect a bullet as it passes through the glass. The deflection will depend on the angle of incidence, velocity, etc. Either way, NONE of the typical self defense rounds have any problem shooting through glass, and ALL of them will undergo deflection. There is also NO handgun round that is going to "knock a man on his a$$". It may be something satisfying to think about, but let me assure you that you are only fantasizing. Bullets deliver a great deal of kinetic energy, but people being knocked down is something from tv, and when it happens in real life it is a reaction of the person being shot, not because the force of the bullet "knocked them down". Sorry to burst your bubble man, but that's the facts, if it makes you happy to fantasize about those things then that's fine, but please do NOT pass that off as fact to others who might not know true facts. Either way, the .357 sig is definately effective as a self defense cartridge, it might not be everybody's "flavor" for who knows what reason, but I don't think most people who are educated would argue that it won't get the job done.